Series Title (YEAR) - Indexers Searching Issue

I’ve done some searches, but haven’t been able to find an answer.

It appears that certain series that have the same title as a past series are then followed by the year. For instance, a few popular TV Shows out now named Scandal and another called Nashville. According to thetvdb, both are written followed by (2012).

Example:

Scandal (2012)
Nashville (2012)

From what I’m seeing, most indexers don’t seem to include (YEAR) after the title. This is creating issues in searching for new episodes.

Is there a way to make Sonarr omit (YEAR) when searching?

We have a process for this: Scene Naming (TVDB Naming Conflicts)

Both these shows are already included though, as shown in this pic:

I see! I’ll have to look into this more.

I overlooked topics called “scene naming” because I didn’t see the connection between scene and title.

So as those boxes you highlighted are shown to be greyed out, does that mean that those are not searched? Assuming that’s the case since my searches aren’t finding anything, how do we enable them?

They’re not greyed out, they’re just a different colour. If Sonarr needs to use a title search as opposed to searching by TVRage ID, “Scandal” is used as the search term.

I get this in my log file:

15-4-22 10:43:23.1|Info|NzbSearchService|Searching 1 indexers for [Nashville (2012) : S03E18]
15-4-22 10:43:23.2|Debug|Newznab|Downloading Feed https://api.oznzb.com/api?t=tvsearch&cat=5030,5040&extended=1&apikey=&offset=0&limit=100&rid=30808&season=3&ep=18
15-4-22 10:43:23.2|Trace|HttpClient|Req: [GET] https://api.oznzb.com/api?t=tvsearch&cat=5030,5040&extended=1&apikey=&offset=0&limit=100&rid=30808&season=3&ep=18
15-4-22 10:43:23.7|Debug|X509CertificateValidationPolicy|Certificate validation for https://api.oznzb.com/api?t=tvsearch&cat=5030,5040&extended=1&apikey=&offset=0&limit=100&rid=30808&season=3&ep=18 failed. RemoteCertificateChainErrors
15-4-22 10:43:37.6|Trace|HttpClient|Res: [GET] https://api.oznzb.com/api?t=tvsearch&cat=5030,5040&extended=1&apikey=&offset=0&limit=100&rid=30808&season=3&ep=18 : 200.OK (14,458 ms)
15-4-22 10:43:37.6|Debug|NzbSearchService|Total of 0 reports were found for [Nashville (2012) : S03E18] from 1 indexers
15-4-22 10:43:37.6|Info|DownloadDecisionMaker|No reports found

&rid=30808 means its using the TVRage ID. The issue is likely that OZ hasn’t mapped the TVRage ID to those releases. A post on their forums with a link to the NZBs on the site should be enough for their mods to take care of it.

Will do.

In the meantime, from a user standpoint, is there no way to dictate what criteria we send out as a search parameter?

No, but we plan to fallback automatically if no results are found: https://trello.com/c/ppIUUW5I/856-fallback-to-title-search-when-no-results-are-found-for-tvrage-search

Oh, okay, so this is an in process fix that has yet to be implemented?

And I just went to OZ to check.

Nashville 2012 is represented by TVRageID of 30808 so this is correct, but since it does not find any shows, shouldn’t it next search for Nashville without 2012?

Or, is there a way to make it use the TVDB Id of 259055 that is also associated with the same file on OZ?

Correct, it will be in a future release (we haven’t started work on it either).

On Sonarr’s side yes, but OZ has those releases linked to TV Rage ID: 15915, Nashville 2007: http://www.tvrage.com/nashville-2007 Oz needs to fix this.

Not until that Trello card I linked is implemented…

No, Sonarr uses TVRage IDs when searching Newznab, not TheTVDB IDs, plus it wouldn’t matter, it doesn’t look like Oz linked that ID to those releases.

Thank you for the thorough response.

When does Sonarr use TVDB IDs? Maybe I’m mistaken, but it does appear that the ID of 259055 is consistently associated with releases of Nashville while the TV Rage ID differs.

Sonarr uses TheTVDB for show information, so it uses it there and when getting aliases for shows (like Scandal or Nashville) and when mapping TheTVDB vs scene numbering (using thexem.de).

Newznab indexers only supported TVRage numbers (which is why Sonarr has them at all), only some indexers have added TheTVDB ID support and its not part of the official specification to my knowledge.

Mapped where? Like I said I don’t see it mapped at all on Oz to those releases.

I attached a picture to show what I’m talking about. They have a reference to TheTVDB which reflects the ID # on TheTVDB which is consistent amongst all of the releases unlike TV Rage.

I guess I’m still a bit confused as to how the addition of “Nashville” in the grey box helps since ultimately I’m left with 0 results. Does it resort to Nashville after Nashville 2012 if Nashville 2012 doesn’t return a TV Rage ID? And the reason why I’m not getting a successful return is because it DOES return a TV Rage ID, but that ID is not finding any search on my NZB Indexer?

For your case it would only help with importing.

You don’t get results because Sonarr is asking for one ID, but your indexer doesn’t have a match for that TVRage ID, at least for the episode you’re searching for.