Do I have to pay to use an Indexer?

I’ve successfully installed Sonarr and have chosen my Shows.

I installed the Rarbg Indexer but it doesn’t look like that one supports downloading the shows I’ve selected automatically.

None of the other Indexers are available as they are all private invite or paid.

Am I missing something? Is there any way to try this thing out without buying an Indexer subscription or spending a week begging someone for an Invite to the Indexers here?

You could install Jackett and use that coupled with Sonarr to gain access other indexers.

Would those other indexers be free or paid or would I have to hunt down an invite code?

This has been really hard to configure. I’m coming from ShowRSS and Catch and would be happy to do a little more work but don’t want to pay for something that is otherwise free.

This program seems to have a lot of really nice features, but it’s not real intuitive, which is strange as it looks like it is, but it’s not!

What I really want is to have ShowRSS give me h.265/HEVC torrents as those are much better but it doesn’t yet support this, hence I found my way here.

It has support for Public and private trackers that do not have APIs (which is why Sonarr doesn’t support them directly).

Do you know if it uses public trackers that support h.265 files? or what are the best public trackers for this?

No clue. You’d be better off asking on a forum focused on public trackers (assuming such a place exists).

This is honestly, really, really hard. I understand that people want functionality and I don’t mind putting time in but getting set up shouldn’t be this much of a chore. If the developers are only going to work with indexers that uses an API, that’s fine, but then they should actually work with them, accept the money and become a payment aggregator for those tracker sites, assuming that they have some existing financial relationship already.

If they don’t then they should develop their own indexer and charge for it because that would be a revenue generator and instead of this program being for the 1%, the 99% could actually use it.

And no… I’m not a newbie and have zero trouble setting things up if I want to put time into it, but I value my time and am making a business and software argument here, not an intelligence one. You could always put an unlimited amount of time into something, heck you could always code it yourself, but that’s not my point.

Any good Indexer is going to be PAID! I’m connected to about 9 of them. They work great. Of course I’ve been on others that are no longer around. Getting onto a closed Indexer is much harder. There are ways, but it’s not as easy. With FREE, you get a lot of fakes. In general, it’s $10-$15 for a year. The one I just signed up for a few days ago give you a Trial Week for free. So if you are using NZB’s which I am, along with NZBGet which I really like. It works great with Sonarr.

Indexers come and go. I think if Sonarr took a cut of the money for a Indexer, that might place them more so into a Piracy zone and Sonarr would disappear like these Indexers tend to do. The Private ones tend to stick around for a whole lot longer.

These Indexers I pay for are not only working for Sonarr, but also CouchPotato, Headphones, and I just installed Radarr which is Sonarr for Movies.

Euh, no, it’s not a good business decision to have that kind of legal liability.

Sonarr isn’t an all-in-one solution, you need a download client, indexers, optionally usenet account etc. And that’s intentional, we are not Popcorn. Sonarr is meant to help the user automate decisions via user profiles and rules, not to ‘download stuff’.
So in that sense it’s supposed to be a bit of a chore, users can’t just plug it in, they have to invest time to understand how it works and tweak and configure it, it’s a tool not a product.

If that doesn’t work for you, then you should look for something else… Netflix perhaps, it’s a great service depending on the continent…

I have 18 Terabytes of Media, so Netflix would be redundant. As I said before, I’m not a newbie, I’m just contributing to the conversation by letting you all know that this is really difficult to setup and it’s not clear that a user would have to actually purchase a subscription to an Indexer.

Maybe this could be more clear in the documentation and on the site there might be comparison charts by price? A message group devoted to discussing the different Indexers would also be valuable.

When you go to the indexer sites they don’t even make it clear how you can purchase from them or that this is an option. They all simply state that they aren’t accepting registrations.

I’m not cheap and not against purchasing a service, but I don’t want to have to chase down a teenager on the streets of Estonia to convince him that it’s ok to accept a $20 U.S. bill from me!

Does this make sense?

https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/wiki/indexers

I think you’re under the impression that these sites are advertising, they’re not, in fact many have rules prohibiting users from mentioning the site publicly and are strictly invite only.
Depending on who you ask, they operate in a gray area. These aren’t businesses intended to ‘make money’ (most of em anyway).

It’s not our intention to have a list, or comparison or anything indexer related. There are other forums for that.
If people need us telling them how usenet works then in all likeliness they shouldn’t use Sonarr.

Yes, I understand that they are operating under the radar. The internet is really pissing me off in this way though.

I’m still really upset that MegaUpload got taken down for essentially running a competitor to Dropbox, Amazon Drive and Box.com. I still don’t get it, so they focused their business on a younger target market and got paid in advertising while the aforementioned sites have deep pockets and they can afford to fight the RIAA/MPAA.

And PirateBay gets taken down for what? .Torrent files? Nope. With magnet torrents they aren’t even hosting files anymore. So they get taken down for providing LINKS to .Torrent files. Guess which other sites do the same thing? Google, Yahoo and ALL other search engines. Just type in Star Wars.torrent and see what I mean.

This is truly getting ridiculous. So these Indexers provide an RSS feed to .Torrents or an RSS feed to Usenet files. So what? They aren’t sending you anything.

If I published a web page with links to other web pages where you could buy a night with an escort, a list of gun shops, a list of medical marijuana facilities, a list of bridges you could jump off of or even a list of terrorist organizations you could donate to, it’s all the same, it’s a list and at least in the U.S. we are supposed to have free speech as long as I’m not actually delivering you a service. It’s just a god damned link!

So if ShowRSS can operate and have as many users it does, why can’t an Indexer provide RSS feeds. What am I not getting here? If “they” are gonna go after someone, why wouldn’t they go after ShowRSS?

Rob

What am I missing here? Why not just use ShowRSS? It works great for me.

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